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As I came through several genealogies, first researching Dracula, Count Orlock, through Wikipedia Cach-Cachovo-Cachticka pani and Hunt-Poznan and De Los Angeles Bartos or Da Silva Bartos on www.familysearch.org, being in genealogic mood, doing research of localities of properties of Bartos and some surnames other to it, tried all possibilities as solving chess puzzle, found on surname Moran on this server also Moran-Olden and that Olden was born in Oldenburg and from this came to me Oldris could be Oldenburg and it was on houseofnames where are coat of arms and derivations of surnames Old is Alt and other different simlilar surnames the same one and so Old is Latin variant of Old -is as was sometimes usual in Austria-Hungaria, but it is Oldris with sof sign on r, sof sign on s and long i. What in Czech means Old Empire. So I came to opinion it is surely Oldenburg. Also one member of family said this my greatgreatgrandmother, who I saw and she lived till 98 and I remember what work I did with her or see hear when I was 5 and I helped and she looked on me in nature, was just from Rupert, said one member of family making mistake in surname that was Rupertova. But was Fajmon. Oldenburg see internet, where are many large genealogical databases and datas of this royal family, especially Danemark, related of royalty of Europe.
by Eva Bartosova, see Bartos for list of surnames or surnames in this article to see more, lists of surnames are updated on www.myspace.com/ruperta11 but individual stories are on ancientfaces.com Oldenburg is ancestor of Prince Rupert several times, see Gotha Almanachs

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