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Ruperta

From correspondence with Princess Susanna Torquatus von Raditsch:

After discovering this recent information, it opened up much for me. I suddenly realized what the fight was really all about. I discovered Grandfather's paternal side was originally from ancient Rome from an original royal family there that became a Patrician family after the fall of relatives from the Monarchy. They ruled as the Dukes of Benevento and Spoleto, then became Kings of Friuli and of the Lombards. They then left and resettled in France and held the titles of the Counts of Anjou. This all made sense because they were military for centuries. The first Count of Anjou was named Torquatus. He was from ancient Roman family named Manlius where came the Manlius Capitolus (meaning from the capital city) and the branch called Manlius Torquatus. Manlius is the surname that has survived in my family since 753 B.C. Torquatus began with ancestor who was leader of Rome who had to champion Rome in a hand to hand combat against the Gauls. He was wounded by the giant warrior they chose for him to fight that day with a spear and fell to the ground and everyone thought he had been mortally wounded. Giant Gaul turned to crowd that was cheering when suddenly my ancestor starts laughing like a crazy man. He stands up removes spear while laughing and says something to the effect like is that all you've got, is this the best you can do. He then kills the giant Gaul, cuts off his head and takes the large gold "torq" (word for necklace) as his trophies. From that day his new name became Manlius Torquatus. He saved Rome that day from the destruction of the powerful Gauls. Later on the name Radic came into play. Rad means laughing or happy. They added the patronymic suffix of ic at the end.
Aug 08, 2007 · Reply
[deleted] Surnames: Palisna, Mikulasich [Michaelavich], of Terzek [Turzcek], Kustyer, Zöld and Sos – Radic – Horvath – Anjou - Frangipani (Frankopan) - The Horvat of Palisna - [today Paleznik] - Horvati Ostlich of Djakovar - [County of Vukovo/Ancient Illyrian-Roman-Greco] – Merovingian – Hungary – Croatia -Kroat

To see several lists of surnames see box Bartos on [external link]
Try also see any surname carefuly on [external link] because some can be in its box more information than in this article and only then you can understand genealogical tree, which is from my correspondence.

By Eva Bartosova

Correspondence with Princess Susanna Torquatus von Raditsch:

The newer Hungarian Historians challenge the spelling of the family Horvat (or like it to write choose Horvathy, Hrvat, Kroat,) and "of Palisna" and maintain that the Horvats are derived of a Hungarian Genus [race] by the name of from Vancha or Bancha.

On the other hand, Count Wilczek

From correspondence:

saw from records that De Lupis family snagged one of my family's documents in late 1800s. I don't know why they obtained it nor how. I have research so much about them and do not see connection where they can make any claims to my family names or properties.

I am trying to find a solicitor that can help me fight this problem. I spent years collecting evidence and documents to show I am legitimate heir to Anjou and Frangipani (Frankopan) family. It was not easy but I found more than adequate amount to prove my blood connections. All I have shows I am direct descendant and not from that long ago either.

The story of Anjou I have been trying to tell you about for a couple of days now is this.

There was a branch of Horvat de Anjou Frangipani (Frankopan) that is direct branch of my ancestors. There were five brothers to this particular branch of my family. Three from this branch became very famous for something terrible. This is translation from J. Siembmacher's Wappenbuch band 35, "Der Udel von Kroatien und Slavonien. It is a rough translation but important.


With the Horvat were a clan and coming the families of Palisna, Mikulasich [Michaelavich], of Terzek [Turzcek], Kustyer, Zöld and Sos were the sammtlich [sammt: collective part - lich: laughed - Croatian: Rad - happy or glad, patronomic suffix ić - family Radić]. In Palisna titled and propertied. The large historic roll, which Paul Horvat of Palisna, Bishop of Agram [Zagreb] (1379 - 1387) his brother Johann Horvat von Palisna, Ban of Croatia (1385 - 1386, 1387), and their relative Johann of Palisna, Prior of Vrana and Ban of Croatia (1385 - 1386, 1388) played, is generally well known and needs described here not more in more detail.

Crest: Getheilt, Crowned [sharp the first in line] born 5 [five] (2. 1. 2.) Lily behind three oblique beams. (After Marczali H. [Professor of History in Hungary, Henrik Marczali ] in "Magyarorszag" [Hungarian] törtenete Millen. relatives from Caesar. S. 367) [records of the Magyarorszag törtenete Millen. Ausg. Family first recorded in 367].

The Horvat of Palisna are Ancient Croatian Noble bloodline which comes from Palisna [today Paleznik] in the Old Cruiser Comitate [County] and bit of the domination Horvati Ostlich of Djakovar, in the old Comitate Vukovo [County of Vukovo/Ancient Illyrian-Roman-Greco].


The newer Hungarian Historians challenge the spelling of the family Horvat (or like it to write choose Horvathy, Hrvat, Kroat,) and "of Palisna" and maintain that the Horvats are derived of a Hungarian Genus [race] by the name of from Vancha or Bancha.

On the other hand, Count Wilczek (Szazadok 1896, H. 7), agrees from research completed that the family Horvat are of Palisna an illegitimate next to branch from the "King´s house of Anjou". For this hypothesis, also existing is a crest, further proof of the entire effectiveness of this family speaks and finally the circumstance that they become in contemporary of original that specific consanguinei [from the pure blood] of the Anjou genes [race].


This part of translation is very important to know.

*) Although all families Names Horvath stems out of Croatia this is not the case with this particular family. We have received heir nevertheless, whose Croatian origin is sublime over all doubt, or better that Original Croatian Royal Blood living in this branch. In other words, Croatia/Illyrian original origin of this blood line, but mixed with Hungarian and Ancient Croatian King family blood lines are intertwined. Thus the name of this ancient family is from the original legendary family whose King was by the name of Hrvat. "Horvath" (Croat) were named in Hungary everyone however, this family is from aces [first family] of legend Croatian family, whose actual names could not the Magyaren ausprechen [Hungarian language speak as their native language was Croatian] [completely verbalize as native Hungarians].

The other very valuable thing about my direct ancestors here were that Count Wilczek found the claim of "illegitimacy" was not completely true and proved. What he discovered was that this branch of direct ancestors (family) derived from Original Anjou and Merovingian lines. This branch derived from Charlemagne (Charles Magnus). Some historians wrote he had a few wives and therefore the children were not considered "legitimate" by some nobles or church. However records do indicate that he did marry each and every woman he had children with. Therefore they were "legitimate not illegitimate" children. What they argued over was that he might not have been divorced from one wife before he married the next? What I heard as a child was that the church refused to acknowledge the divorces and the new marriages. They considered only the first wife to have been a legal marriage by the church. What is hard to understand is that the church married him off to the other wives and long after he died suddenly claimed the children of all marriages, even first wife "illegitimate children." What I also heard since childhood this was propaganda brought on by political rivals fighting for claims of various thrones that belonged to his children (my direct ancestors).

There is more to the Horvat I of Palisna.

The three of the five brothers got talked into kidnapping Mary of Hungary by Sigismund.

Click here: Mary of Hungary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is only a small portion of that story and what really happened. I heard a lot about things that are not in history books when I was very little. The way this site explains it, is very mixed up and confusing. When I try to repair the story and straighten out what I know for a fact from family members that passed the truth on, they won't let me. I guess they think historians and not family members know more about our family than we do?

What seems difficult for the average person to also understand is that the Royalty of Europe are all inter-related with one another and have been since time began.

Warm regards,

Princess Susanna Torquatus Von Radic (Frangipani-Frankopan-Anjou de Cognac)
Aug 19, 2007 · Reply
[deleted] Anjou – Angevin – Torquatus –Radic – Raditsch – Radich – Frangipani – Modrus – Bartos – De Lupus – De Lupis - Plantagenet

To see several lists of surnames see box Bartos on [external link]
Try also see any surname carefuly on [external link] because some can be in its box more information than in this article and only then you can understand genealogical tree, which is from my correspondence.

By Eva Bartosova

Correspondence with Princess Susanna Torquatus von Raditsch:


Anyway the story about Napoleon was this. In the very beginning stages of his career he had many dreams and wishes. From those who knew him personally within my family past on the stories that he was not the Devil as many would like to call him. In the beginning he spoke a lot about Charlemagne (Charles Magnus) to the point of obsession. When he initially got into power he had at his disposal many experts in various fields. He had at his disposal a lot money to pay towards his dream of finding the descendants of the Manlius Torquatus family (my lineage). The reason he wanted this so badly was because my side of the family was famous throughout centuries of history for their Military Expertise. He heard how my family was the force behind the success of Charlemagne (a family ancestor by blood) and the Torquatus who's son was the first Duke of Anjou who married into the Royal House that became The House of Plantagenet, also called the House of Anjou, or Angevin dynasty. The story says that they were originally a noble family from France, which ruled the County of Anjou but if you look at the records written by the Church there and the Cistine Monks of Anjou, it all began with a man they called To see several lists of surnames see box Bartos on [external link]
Try also see any surname carefuly on [external link] because some can be in its box more information than in this article and only then you can understand genealogical tree, which is from my correspondence.

By Eva Bartosova

Correspondence with Princess Susanna Torquatus von Raditsch
. He also knew the common knowledge of that time that our side of the family was a direct lineage to what is known at the Merovignian line.

What I find strange and still researching is that there is a record that states my branch of the female side of the family was the last of the Carolingian descendants. This probably indicates the Male side is originally from the Merovingians.


Click here: House of Plantagenet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This website might help you with the search your ancestor. Try typing in the name you wrote to me about and see what happens. Beware though that not all you see on these websites are truly 100% accurate and they do have some bugs to work out because they are somewhat incomplete.

Click here: The House of Anjou 1

Click here: Medieval Sourcebook: Chronicle of the Counts of Anjou, c. 1100

The names were altered because of the language barriers and because those around my ancestor did not speak his native tongue. This is the Gallo - Roman side of our family.

Napoleon found my family after a short investigation and made contact with them. They became close relatives and friends as I mentioned to you before. They assisted him on a couple of his campaigns that were very successful. He became inspired from the family's history that was deeply investigated by his people. He saw himself as a kind of Caesar of his modern day. One of my family members encouraged him to make himself a golden laurel wreath to wear upon his brow. He is seen depicted in paintings just like this. He rewarded my family with protection from loosing their lands in Italy. Their relationship with him caused him to pass the unprecedented laws that gave the Jewish people normal human rights as they should have had but no one had dared to give for centuries. The relationship also inspired him to start what was called "The Illyrian Movement." He tried to help restore our family's legacy. He met resistance from Eastern sources and this is what I have reason to believe made him head into Poland and Russia.

Everyone would like to think of Napoleon as a mad man but he was like any other ruler from the past who tried to set his example and legacy in stone for future generations. He wanted to be remembered for doing something on a grand scale. He wanted to be spoken of in a good way for centuries to come. He learned much of military tactics from my family who has for centuries past down their Military Secrets from generation to generation (to man, woman and child of their direct lineage). Please don't think I resent how I was raised because I don't. I realize now that it was a legacy from generation to generation that needed to be taught and forced into someone who would carry it on for the next generation. Otherwise the methods and ideals could not survive.

You see how our families are intertwined throughout history. This is because they intermarried for centuries.

Now you have heard a lot about how my family was and how they fit into your side of the family but I want to hear more about your side. I don't want to bore you with only my side of it all. Although I will be writing you about De Lupis. I have to find all the things I know about him because I do not believe in putting down in writing anything unless I know for certain it is the absolute truth that can be proved without a doubt.

I know you are intelligent enough to realize I am not trying to purposely boast about my direct side of the family. I know you must know I have written down what I have in order to preserve the history as it truly was so that no one takes it and changes it to suit their own ambitions.

I did not want to tell anyone for a long time about anything because I felt somewhat ashamed. I felt we lost everything, all possessions and found people made fun of this fact. It didn't matter it was not our fault. It was circumstances that was not in our control. It was a powerful evil force that was long ago foretold in scriptures that had to come to pass.

I soon realized by sharing the truth about my side of the family seemed to help others with their searches because they either found something in material I found or in something I said to them.

By the way although my 3rd Great Grandfather on the Maternal side held a "Count" title in 1820, this was only one of several of his inherited titles. The English family has given rise to a phenomena where their people have sold noble and aristocratic titles like wild fire. This was done in the centuries past when some family members needed money (this was one reason why the title of Marquise was invented, it was only considered as a "Courtesy Title" with no power or real substance). What the common person seems to be extremely ignorant about are the differences between the "Royal, Noble and Aristocratic status." Their behavior has allowed the common man in to such a degree that our Royal kind has been truly compromised and ridiculed where no one respects it in the same manner as it once was.

Our side of the family was from original "Royal Blood - Authentic Blue Blood." They were very, very strict and deadly serious about their ideals. This was part of the underlying problem during the French Revolution and the Adam Weishaupt movements.

What I am trying to get at is not just the importance of who we really are and but their true value.

My Mother went to Croatia and during the latter part of 1969 in Zagreb was proclaimed "Queen of Croatia." This caused the deaths of several people who worked on this project. I have photographs of this visit of hers.

This is not the only reason why I took on the Royal Title of "Her Royal Highness Princess." The important side to the Croatian culture is the "Paternal Side" of your family. To show you how important it is to tell the truth and share the truth with others, I used as my method the stories I heard since childhood and then took the stance of a complete pessimist about the stories and decided to go by pure factual documentations. I discovered records how we got the name Torquatus Von Radic. I already explained the Torquatus end of the family's history to a small degree. However I discovered the reason the people gave us the nickname Radic. Rad means laughing or happy with the patronymic suffix of ic. The story of Marcus Manlius Torquatus who was the son of the Manlius Torquatus that championed Rome that day with the Gaul warrior has his story as well. He heard the sound of geese cackling and this woke him up to investigate. He saw the Gauls climbing the rocks and reached down for the closest one and picked him up and threw him down on top of the rest of them. This woke up the rest of the soldiers and Romans who came to assist him. He also used his own money to get some debtors out of prison and freed others from their debts by selling off some of his own property. There were political enemies that accused him of trying to manipulate their system of government to gain popularity (as if he did not have enough of it already) and his enemies cowardly ganged up on him and threw him off the rocks to his death. Because of the loss and tragedy of this family member from that day forward no one directly related to this branch of the family ever named another child "Marcus". This promise has been kept within my family still to this day. This is why on many of our coat of arms from the Male's side of my family has depicted laughing geese.

The story however does not truly end there. The Male side of my family was also related by blood to the King's of Friuli and in particular to one named "Radic" who was the last "King of Croatia and Bosnia" who was murdered when he escaped and went in search of Nikolas Frangipani (Frankopan) who he knew would help him with his claim to his inheritance. The historians thought for a while that this Radic was in fact the brother of Tomasević who was Croatian-Bosnian King Stjepan Tomasević in 1463. Radic was not the brother but the Uncle who was Cousin to Frangipani. I know something that is not in any history books. When Radic died, his Cousin the Frangipani adopted his surviving children and kept them on Krk/Veglia then moved them to Modrus. This is where those villas that they took over comes into play for me and why it is so significant to get them back!

Click here: Ivan Anz Frankopan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have strong reason from researches that I have conducted and much materials I have read to believe that Radic was related to Trpimir the first King of Croatia by close family blood ties.

Radic is the namesake of my ancestor on the culturally important Male's side and for a reason they kept it alive as a part of their name.

All the best regards,

Princess Susanna Torquatus Von Radic (Frangipani - Frankopan - Anjou de Cognac)

Stanislaus is a name related to one of my family's branches.

......my Great Great Grandfather on the female's side of the family was Nikolas (Nicholas) Josef Anton Frangipani out of Castell Propetto who was awarded the titles by Franz I of Austria in Vienna on February 3, 1820, which was one month after he married my Great Great Grandmother Katarina. This side I also recently discovered was related to the Medici of Italy and have a couple of castles in Venice.

Warm regards,

Susanna Torquatus Von Radic (Frangipani - Raditschs)

After discovering this recent information, it opened up much for me. I suddenly realized what the fight was really all about. I discovered Grandfather's paternal side was originally from ancient Rome from an original royal family there that became a Patrician family after the fall of relatives from the Monarchy. They ruled as the Dukes of Benevento and Spoleto, then became Kings of Friuli and of the Lombards. They then left and resettled in France and held the titles of the Counts of Anjou. This all made sense because they were military for centuries. The first Count of Anjou was named Torquatus. He was from ancient Roman family named Manlius where came the Manlius Capitolus (meaning from the capital city) and the branch called Manlius Torquatus. Manlius is the surname that has survived in my family since 753 B.C. Torquatus began with ancestor who was leader of Rome who had to champion Rome in a hand to hand combat against the Gauls. He was wounded by the giant warrior they chose for him to fight that day with a spear and fell to the ground and everyone thought he had been mortally wounded. Giant Gaul turned to crowd that was cheering when suddenly my ancestor starts laughing like a crazy man. He stands up removes spear while laughing and says something to the effect like is that all you've got, is this the best you can do. He then kills the giant Gaul, cuts off his head and takes the large gold "torq" (word for necklace) as his trophies. From that day his new name became Manlius Torquatus. He saved Rome that day from the destruction of the powerful Gauls. Later on the name Radic came into play. Rad means laughing or happy. They added the patronymic suffix of ic at the end.

I heard that Napoleon knew of my family's legendary military skills and came to meet them and make them an offer. I do not know what happened from that point on. I do know that the agreement was to free the Jews as part of it all.

My Grandfather's female side of the family came from the legendary Jordan (Giordano) Pierleoni who lived around the 7th century. He came from a royal very powerful and wealthy Jewish family who had their start out of the ghettos of Rome where by their laws, they only allowed Jews to live. My family never forgot this part of their lives. They forever remained humble about it all. Rome was starving because of a great famine. This ancestor made a large present of bread to feed the hungary people of Rome during this time. They changed his name from Pierleoni to Frangipani. There were only three branches of this family. The Roman branch's male line died out and the name Pierleoni forever changed. The second branch was ruling Northern Italy as Frangipani out of Venice. The third and final branch lived in Croatia and this is my direct ancestor. His name was Prince Ivanish Nikolas Frangipani (Frankopan). He lived during the 14th century in Croatia after leaving Venice when he inherited the title and lands. His cousin King Radic was the last King of Croatia and Bosnia. Radic went to find him because he knew he would have protection and support from his close relative. He was suddenly murdered. It is suspected by King Sigismund's men. He was survived by his children who were raised by the Frangipani family. They remained there under their protection for the remainder of the family branch's existence. This was until my Grandfather left the area to come to America in search of the last Frangipani who was a Marquise. Prince Ivanish Nikolas died in the year 1436.

I also heard the same information about Bartholomew as well. The name for my family came from Bartalan (Bertalan) which is Bartholomew. I have seen it altered to Bartul and Bartol /Barthol as well. It is still a derivative of the same name.

There is a Bartol or Bartalan - Bertalan who was from the Frangipani branch. This was Istvan (Stefan) Bartalan (Bartos-Bartul-Bartol) Count of Veglia and Modrus Ban of Croatia died 1481 married Isotta d'Este in 1446. Isotta lived between (1425 - 1456). The connection of this Bartol or Bartalan (because there are so many of them in the family tree) is that he was Count of Modrus. The year is off from the 1601 you have.

I do not see another Bartol or Bartalan or Bartholomew anywhere else in 1600s. This of course does not mean anything as you know because the records are incomplete. I am sure there is a way to connect the dots.

If they came from Yugoslav area chances are very strong that we are related!

I also know exactly what you mean about nobles who were illegitimate or made up areas to connect themselves to rule in place of those who should have ruled.

I myself am suffering a great battle about such a thing at the moment.

There is a man who claims himself to be from some fourth branch of the Frangipani family from Rome at the moment. He went public after I went public. He claimed he was a Prince of Croatia. He legally changed his name in London, England around 1992 to Frangipani. The crazy thing is everyone knows my family was extremely close. There was no fourth branch! I recently challenged his claim again. He backed down from his claim of Princedom and now claims he is a Duke! I again challenged his claim. He published his so called pedigree but it does not remotely match anything that belongs to my family and he put the titles of Marquise in front of all of the ancestors. The title Marquise started in France and moved on to England by way of French nobles and not in Italy where he claims his family to be from.

The other problem is that he has been blocking me from making my legal and rightful claims to my inheritances (titles, lands and money). I said that anyone can legally change their name to whatever but this does not entitle you to legally claim the inheritance of another.

I said if he still claims to be a Duke this can only be because he was granted this title through England. The De Lupis family derived from two sources. One is from a family that existed during the 600s. This family plagued my family who ruled over Benevento, Spoleto and Friuli. My relative Grimoald left to save his son who was taken hostage and left De Lupus (a lower titled noble) in charge while he was away. This De Lupus self proclaimed himself as a Duke. He was soon found terrorizing everyone within miles. The people called him a tyrant ruler. He murdered and stole from everyone including the Patriarch. He told everyone they needed to get used to him and his family because King Grimoald was never coming back. He had sent someone to kill him. To his surprise King Grimoald did come back with his son in tact. He fought De Lupus for three days and on the third day he died. This was in the year 666. The other thing was that the entire family was stripped of all titles, lands and properties as a way to pay back everyone for all of the terrible damages they caused. Their titles were never restored! By the way, De Lupus means "the Wolf." The male line completely died out at the end of the 600s. The early 700s the female line completely died out.

This new De Lupis earned a knighthood on two occasions during the late 18th century early 19th century. I understand they were temporary titles with no land exchanges.
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  • Marie 3.8%
  • Charles 3.8%
  • Marguerite 3.3%
  • Ermengarde 2.7%
  • Louis 2.2%
  • Adele 2.2%
  • Ingelger 2.2%
  • Foulques 1.6%
  • Fulk 1.6%
  • Carl 1.6%
  • Jean 1.6%
  • John 1.6%
  • Jeanne 1.1%
  • Karl 1.1%
  • Maria 1.1%
  • Turner 1.1%
  • Gerberge 1.1%
  • Geoffroy 1.1%
  • Sibylla 1.1%
  • Clara 1.1%
  • Type 1.1%
  • Guy 1.1%
  • Yolande 1.1%
  • Eustache 1.1%
  • Roscille 1.1%
  • Matilda 1.1%
  • Francoise 1.1%
  • Foulques iii 1.1%
  • Emile 1.1%
  • Alphonse 1.1%
  • Fulk iii 'nerre' 0.5%
  • Marie-rosalie 0.5%
  • Bretrade 0.5%
  • Nazaire 0.5%
  • Geoffroy i 'grisego' 0.5%
  • Béatrice 0.5%
  • Henri 0.5%
  • Geoffroy i 0.5%
  • Lucien 0.5%
  • Foulques iv 0.5%
  • François de croix 0.5%
  • Fulk i 'le roux' 0.5%
  • Fulk ii 'the good' 0.5%
  • Marie-josephte 0.5%
  • Jacques 0.5%
  • Giovanna 0.5%
  • Laurent 0.5%
  • Margaret 0.5%
  • Lambert 0.5%
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