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Ivar Ilseng Thommessen

Updated Jun 16, 2025
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Ivar Ilseng Thommessen
A photo of Ivar Ilseng Thommessen and his father Karl Thommessen in the corner.
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Proof that early photographers were creative with how they took photos. Is that Ivar’s father at the bottom?
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05/19/2015
They look a lot alike
Photo of Julie Oakman Julie Oakman
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05/19/2015
Well I hope it's not the milk man
Photo of Linda Vance Linda Vance
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05/19/2015
Judging by the man's proud smile, I think he's the father.
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05/19/2015
Hope he isn't trying to hold that big mirror up!
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05/19/2015
Holding him steady?
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05/19/2015
Love this
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05/19/2015
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05/19/2015
It's just such a damn shame the "Fotowarden" feels the need to ruin the photograph by stamping their trademark across it. There are other, less
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05/19/2015
It's a blessing and a shame. The stamp provides valuable clues to know more about the exact date & location of the photo.
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05/19/2015
There are other, less aggressive and Nazi-like ways of doing that. But each to his own. I will simply not follow your page anymore.
Photo of Connie Lovingood Connie Lovingood
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05/19/2015
It's across the baby's cloths.. not across the photo
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05/19/2015
Gee, thank for that brilliant observation, Connie. I never would have picked up on the fact that this person ruins pictures with the blatant promotion of their own website, but ONLY across the primary object in the photo, without you.
Photo of Mary Cyrus Mary Cyrus
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05/19/2015
... their website? It appears to be a stamp original to the photo. This print was probably a proof, purposely stamped in a way you wouldn't want to display it, so the client would buy a print.
Photo of Mary Cyrus Mary Cyrus
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05/19/2015
You're threatening to not follow a page because a photographer protected their proof with a stamp (or used this photo as an advertisement) many decades ago. That makes sense.
Photo of Patrice DeTal Patrice DeTal
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05/19/2015
Really, Mary? You think "FotoWarden" is a vintage trademark? FOTOwarden? Pick up a book once in a while. And I didn't threaten to stop following, I have.
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05/19/2015
The word is fotograf I imagine that's Norwegian for photograph or photographer. You can tell by the stamp that its ink on paper and rather old.
Photo of Shannon Dutchess-Neal Shannon Dutchess-Neal
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05/19/2015
It's Fotograf idiot. The photographer is from Norway so that seems like it would be a legit name. If that's the way you react to a pic posted to a fb page, then it probably would be best that you leave this group. Photographers do this all the time. Way back when and today. Chill out.
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05/19/2015
I AM. a photographer, Shannon! And no photographers started water-marking their photos until 2005. Idiot. Before that, professional photos were stamped by the name of the photographer or the studio at the bottom of the chromatic paper. NEVER across the image itself. So I will voice my opinion anytime I feel like it, You low-class moron. Chill out your yourself. No one was talking to you.
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05/19/2015
hahaha that practice is still applied today. It's a stamp on the photo that's been there 80 years. Photographer Warderizen. *facepalm*
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05/19/2015
yes, they were too....says the professional photographer. -_-
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05/19/2015
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05/19/2015
Clearly Patrice is having a bad day. I have vintage photos with the photographer's mark on them. The stamp on the photo above is not a watermark but is a stamp. Move on Patrice, find someone else to bully.
. . . or a bad lifetime. It's always the people who know nothing who accuse others of knowing nothing! lol
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05/20/2015
Fotograf is Norwegian for photographer. Wardenær is his name. And this is clearly an example of that stamps were placed where the "fotograf" wanted them ;-)
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05/20/2015
That escalated rather quickly 😱 ....looks to be an original stamp
oh oh no!! The photographer Wardenær was the best friend of little Ivar's father. Thorleif Wardenær was born in 1897 and died in 1990. There are several baby pictures of Ivar from that same session, most of them trial prints, and thus with the photographers stamp, and then some pictures properly printed, where the photographers name was more descretly embossed. But this particular image was obviously not chosen to be properly printed.
Patrice DeTal - the stamp says: Fotograf Wardenær - Casinogaarden - Telf, 15010 - So the name of the photographer (fotograf is norwegian for photographer), the adress in Oslo with phonenumber. Casinogaarden was the popular name used for the building where the Casino cinema hold house in the center of Oslo in the 1920's.
Haha! Burn Patrice DeTal!
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05/19/2015
That bloke? It's pedobear out of his costume.
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05/19/2015
Look at those shoes! That's Awesome!
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05/19/2015
What a little darlin
Possibly an Advertising photo that the parents agreed to let their child be the model?
Is the stamp from the photographer? I would think it would be fairly easy to edit out. Personally, I think it adds to the charm.
His work is in this museum, gives a short bio/history.
Photo of Linda Tyler Linda Tyler
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05/19/2015
This was likely a "proof" photo, which is why the stamp is across the baby. If you look at the phone number, you can see it's vintage. I've had past experience with photographers stamping across photos given to the client for approval. It's to ensure they purchase prints.
Photo of Carol Humbert Lowery Carol Humbert Lowery
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05/19/2015
Adorable and unusual shot for that time period.
Photo of Kay Cooper Kay Cooper
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05/19/2015
Oh that's a fantastic picture, love it. Thanks for posting x
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05/19/2015
Adorable!
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05/19/2015
So sweet. That is neat how the mirror is tilted, too.
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05/19/2015
double exposure
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05/19/2015
Precious ! !
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05/19/2015
:-)
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05/19/2015
It would be just a proof, not the finished article.My Wedding photo`s all had numbers on them, you choose the ones you want to buy from these! Lovely old photograph & very helpful to researchershaving the photographers name on.
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05/19/2015
His shoes are cutting into his legs! Cute chubby baby!
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05/19/2015
Patrice DeTal - WHY do you have to behave like such a condescending :poop: head? The photographer's name is Thorleif Wardenær. He was Norwegian and established his photography studio in 1918. You know nothing of the background of this photo, nor do you know the reason the photo has the studio stamp on it. So, unless you can talk with the dead, you will never know. In light of that information I would advise you to STFU.
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07/07/2015
Let me help you with your vocabulary, darling. Delusional is posting yourself as "Mondorian Queen" instead of your name. Condescending is my bothering to respond to your self righteous comment. So find yourself a dictionary and STFU yourself, dear.
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05/19/2015
Very cool pic. I esp love the man's smiling face was also captured within. Also, you can see the man's face (in part) reflected in the mirror at the child's feet.
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05/19/2015
Annette Friedel; thats a thought. But im thinkng the man may have been simply nearby, in case the child lost balance while taking the picture. Im also thinking the man might have had one of those bulb things in his hand, attached by cord to the camera, to squeeze when 'snapping' the picture itself. Not sure about that tho. :).
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05/19/2015
Baby enjoying the baby in the mirror
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05/19/2015
How cute
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05/19/2015
Cute is not the word :) 💓
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05/19/2015
Adorable !!
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05/19/2015
Probably used an old box type camera and glass type negs
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05/19/2015
I agree with Linda - it's probably a proof, and the final photo would be cropped to show just the baby and not Dad down below ready to catch Junior if he toddles off and falls.
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05/26/2015
Well, you can see the dad in the mirror, too, so it's kind of irrelevant.
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05/19/2015
So cute.
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05/20/2015
My ex had an ancient face, hence she is my ex!
Just to stop the speculations. I am the daughter of Ivar, and granddaughter of his father Kalle in the corner. This is a proof print. The photographer Thorleif Wardenær was born in 1897 and died in 1990 and he was the best friend of Kalle. There are several baby pictures of Ivar from that same session, most of them trial prints, and thus with the photographers stamp, and then some pictures properly printed, where the photographers name was more descretly embossed. But this particular image was obviously not chosen to be properly printed, atleast I did not find any other prints of it.
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07/07/2015
wonderful and thanks for the information.
Photo of Deborah Dodds Deborah Dodds
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05/20/2015
Way to cute
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06/10/2015
They were very creative back then. I've seen some wonderful old pictures.
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07/14/2015
Omg look at the phone number Lmao! It's a five digit number! Where are people getting the idea that watermarking is a new concept? That's new to me. Everyone owns a camera. Not everyone knows how to use it, let alone its history. I did go to school to become a professional photographer and I run a studio and there's no way I'll pretend to be an expert but marking a proof is not new. The image that's bought is not marked at all or a very inconspicuous area. Its how we protect our work hoping you'll buy it. A hobby doesn't put food on the table. A little fun fact. Photo manipulation has been around almost two hundred years. (I don't want to do the math). We call it photoshopping. :)
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07/14/2015
Randi Thommessen I just saw your comment after I posted mine or I would have not bothered posting. Thank you for the info! :)
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10/06/2015
Very cute.
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Ivar Ilseng Thommessen
Ivar was born on November 23, 1929 at Bærum sykehus, outside of Oslo, Norway. He was born to Karl Fredrik Albert Thommessen and Randi Thommessen, and had 1 sibling: Kari Dirdal. In 1949-50 he worked in Chicago for Stewart Warner Corp, before he started his studies in Civil Engineering at the university in Brighton, UK He then lived and worked one year in London, before heading home to Oslo, were he worked for Lauritsen & Thommessen, a company founded by his father. When his father Karl retired, Ivar took over the running of the firm. He married Oliv in 1968, and together they had three children, Harald, Arne and Randi. Ivar died on March 1, 2002 at Silurveien sykehjem, Oslo Norway at the ago of 72. The cause of death was Alzheimers, like his mother.
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Karl Fredrik Albert Thommessen
Karl Thommessen was born in 1898 in Oslo, Norway. At the beginning of the 1920s, he worked in a bank in Frankfurt, Germany. Later Karl Thommessen founded an import company together with Rolf Lauritsen in Oslo, Norway, the firm was named Lauritsen & Thommessen. In 1928 he married Randi Ilseng from Porsgrunn, Norway. Together they got two children, Ivar and Kari. The summer of 1945, he traveled first to London and then to New York, to work for the Norwegian Ministry of Supply and Reconstruction to buy car and car parts in order to get the transportation up and running after the war. He returned to Oslo in April 1946, and lived there until his death in 1992.
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