Andrews relative
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Andrews relative
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Linda Koloda
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09/03/2011
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AncientFaces
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06/08/2017
Interesting outfit and hat - any ideas about time?
Susan Schloss
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06/08/2017
I would say early 1900's, foreign. Maybe 1905-1908. The hat does not look American. The length of the skirt was about the time period I suggested, about ankle-length. This was taken in a studio. Probably Eastern European.
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It looks that way to me, too - but the owner says it's from Virginia?
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^you're such an expert on other people's families? Maybe a member of Eastern Star. But, just because the picture was found in a collection in Virginia doesn't mean it was taken there. She said it was found in Virginia.
Susan Schloss
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06/08/2017
OK, So it's Virginia. I am a fashion person and taught fashion design and fashion history for many years. I also have photos of my ancestors, both from NYC and Europe. I would doubt this was taken in the USA, anywhere, but I'm not going to fight anyone about fashion. From my knowledge, I stick with what I wrote.
Susan Schloss
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06/08/2017
Linda Virtue I am no expert on other people's familes, and never claimed to be!
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What does eastern star have to do with it???
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Could the photo have been taken in Europe then brought over with a family who ended up in Virginia?
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Could certainly be in Virginia and the person in the photograph was an immigrant and this was how she dressed.
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Linda Virtue you're only credible when you have an actual profile picture. No need to be a complete b****.
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Marilyn Cozart Dusang it's a group for women whose husbands belong to another organization, like the Masons or something. Both men and women would wear interesting costumes with lots of symbology to them. And I wish people wouldn't get snarky (not you, Marilyn)!!! Gosh, we're just talking about an interesting picture.
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it might be Edwardian widows weeds. It looks like the "S" curve corset of the early 1900s. Or she may be pregnant
Ree Young
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06/08/2017
Going by photos of what my aunts (my mother's older sisters were born between 1896 and 1907, so they would have been in adult dresses before 1920), I'd say this waistline indicates around 1910 or 1912, maybe even later.
Before that, waistlines were still a bit above the natural waistline. Of course, that period...late Edwardian...saw a big transition in styles, especially within different social classes.
Before that, waistlines were still a bit above the natural waistline. Of course, that period...late Edwardian...saw a big transition in styles, especially within different social classes.
Ree Young
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06/08/2017
Found an old ad for women's hats, 1910. A couple look close to this woman's hat. Early 1900's hats were generally much larger with bigger brims.
Ann Domjan
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I understand it wasn't unusual for ladies to take a crack at making their own hats....forgive me for saying, she wasn't very good at it.....😢
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Looks better than any hat I'd attempt! LOL
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Early 1920's based on both the hat and dress.
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Suffragette... They had quite a few conventions but I don't see any signage...🤔
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The relaxed waistline suggests maternity to me. Hard to judge age of this sad looking woman but definitely no corset and waistline wider than bustline.
Of course hard to date as not everyone got new clothes when fashion changed, so even if fashion was from turn of the century, a woman could be wearing it decades later
Of course hard to date as not everyone got new clothes when fashion changed, so even if fashion was from turn of the century, a woman could be wearing it decades later
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The dress is way too big. I think it's borrowed or she was given the dress. The hat is part of the ensemble and she doesn't wear it very well. I bet the hat was for something outdoors. It might be a widow's veil.
Jean White
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06/08/2017
I think Russian or some European countries! Beautiful ,
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The very beginnings of new freedom in dress. An easier corset, a soft brassiere, emphasis on the waist before it drops to the hips! Small pork pie hat. Sateen fabric. I think c.1920. A look that would reach its full definition by 1928, and then handkerchief points would start to lengthen the skirts again.
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Reminds me of a song that I teach my beginner piano students. ..
"Where did you get that hat?
Where, oh, where?
Where, oh, where?
Where did you get that hat?
I would like a hat like that!"
Except I think it's an UGLY hat. Maybe she's part of some club or organization that wears such an ugly thing?
"Where did you get that hat?
Where, oh, where?
Where, oh, where?
Where did you get that hat?
I would like a hat like that!"
Except I think it's an UGLY hat. Maybe she's part of some club or organization that wears such an ugly thing?
Lance Holt
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06/08/2017
The loose cut supports the 1920s and/or ritual attire. Could be earlier than likely an adjunct to a fraternal order back in the day when every city has tons of various fraternal orders. Perhaps this is an example of one of the less common orders like the fraternal order of Forresters?
Lance Holt
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06/08/2017
I meant to say "It could be earlier though, and likely an adjunct to a fraternal order" Sorry!
Lori Russell
Bob Andrews
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12/09/2024
It’s challenging to determine her exact origin based solely on this photograph. However, her attire might provide clues. The long dress and hat with what appears to be a star could indicate a connection to a uniform or traditional costume, possibly related to a cultural or organizational role.
If the star symbolizes something, it might hint at involvement in a Red Cross, socialist, or military organization from the early 20th century. To narrow down her origin, additional historical or contextual details about the photo would be helpful.
If the star symbolizes something, it might hint at involvement in a Red Cross, socialist, or military organization from the early 20th century. To narrow down her origin, additional historical or contextual details about the photo would be helpful.
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