A photo of Adam & Librada (Rodrigues) Yates. Wedding photo of my husband Bob Gregory's 3rd great grandparents. Adam was born in NY 1828, migrated to Mariposa Co., CA. abt 1852. "Libby" was b. abt 1840 in Mexico.
This is an 1856 wedding photo of Adam & Librada (Rodrigues) Yates and the connection that brought the bride and groom together is nothing short of amazing. Adam was born in New York in 1828 and Libby was born in Mexico in 1840 - many years apart and many miles apart.
They must have met when Adam migrated to Mariposa county in California in 1852. Despite their age difference, we know that they went on to have children because they were the 3rd great grandparents of the photograph owner's husband.
Because community member Kathy G shared this photo, descendants and distant family members can honor Adam and Libby over 160 years later
Karen. Different times. Back those days, people didn't live as long and infant child mortality rate was high. Goals were to have children and keep them alive and fed til they could help raise food, or they could start their own households. We came a long way since then with a steady food supply, clean water and antibiotics.
Karen Shreeves So it doesn't make it right in your mind, But it is not even reasonable to judge the past with your standards. Remember, those people are dead, maybe they are watching you and judging your standards. Believe me we would all come up short
Laurie Wolfschlag Well said. In 1865, my great grandfather came home from the Civil War. He had 3 children, in a community that was so devastated from the war, and so many of their men had been killed, untill it could have past for an after the Apocalypse world, In 1870 his wife died in childbirth, he had 4 children the oldest were 8 and 9 I believe, (yes the child survived the mom didn't. The neighbors, 2 farms up the road sent their daughter Miranda down to help with the babies, while Jeff worked. Miranda was 14, they were married about a year later. They lived together until he died in 1907. My grandfather Chris was the 7th one of their children, and there were 3 more after him. People should never judge their ancestors for living the rules of their community and their time.
Karen Shreeves to them it was right. Thats how it was done. They didnt see it as bad. Different times had different ideas. They died earlier so they did everything earlier.
It was not to common in Norway actually.
You would believe they got married earlier at that time, but they had to afford settling down, and peoples usually had to work until they were way up in their twenties before they could get married.
Silje Lone weren't people in colder climates usually a bit older before marriage, maturity, anyway?
Seems like in more Southern or warmer climates, people tended to be younger, come to maturity and marriage earlier - at least, to physical maturity, anyway. I won't say they were necessarily mentally more mature.
Vesuvia, I'm not sure.
Maybe the fact that it is more expensive to build a house in colder climates, and to tend a farm in general, made it more difficult ? And it was probably more difficult to get land in general, due to the fact that Norway is a small country, only around 5% of the land is agriculture, the rest is basically wasteland 😄 people used to move out when they were around 14-15 to work, not to get married.
Larry Murley if they are watching judging us by their standards. It wouldn't matter if we came up short because times have changed the standards, in a sense.
So , if you (generally speaking) think you'll come up short then maybe you wish the times were like it was way back when. 🤷🏾♀️
Tiarra Thomas But I don't you see, I have been studying their lives, for years now, I will have a book coming out in Oct Or Nov, life was very hard, as single scrape on your shin could cost you a leg, or maybe your life. No, I appreciate them for what they did, and I can empathize with their hardships. The deeper you studies these histories, the greater is the miracle, that there is a United States of America The numbers of women who died in childbirth was staggering
Larry Murley I study history too. Took classes just because, it's not part of my major. I also research because I also know history is told by the ones who were "victorious". And, you know the deeper I study American history and the people that look like me it IS a miracle. It's a miracle they didn't ALL take their lives at once. IT WAS HARD. Death was the only reprieve, literally! So yes I also emphasize with them and continue live by a better and better standard out of respect for them. I wonder how your MAGA I mean your "greater is the miracle, that is United States of America" would have turned out?
The numbers of women who died during childbirth got better over time. Why don't you look up my side of history and find out why that is. How those doctors studied women bodies, I'm Sorry enslaved women's bodies to find the root and cause of it. Look up Marion Sims. Spoiler: he would cut these women open while ALIVE with no anesthesia for all to see in Central Park. You'll see why we view history differently. While what he did learning about women's bodies was cool and all BUT that's what cadavers are for and was solid method of study even back then.
Henrietta Lacks look her up as well
My history is full of horror and pain but that's okay, right? because look at the greater miracle of the United States of America.
Your history doesn't benefit my history The way my history benefits yours.
April Williams, she is wearing gloves, I am just totally amused at some of the remarks about these people, it almost seems that most have never seen old pictures from the 19th century. Surely there must be no history being taught in the schools at present.
Dave Wright you are utterly ridiculous.
Nobody's hands are dead, and it's not photoshopped.
The lady is wearing gloves. Ladies wore gloves then, because they were actually ladies, who dressed properly.
Exactly. Women had zero say. My grandpa was a coal miner, who was 33yo and married my 15yo grandma to have babies to help coal mine. She was a total baby maker. He didn't love her until he died or anything. They were rich because he became a preacher and all his kids then switched from being coal miners to youth pastors.,,,,
That's why we have so many children. They run our farm. It's awesome. You see little kids throwing fits in stores? That's because they were born in the city. Mine were born in the country, and the age when city kids are throwing fits, mine are crawling around between rows of corn, pulling weeds. They are SO useful, as compared to their city counterparts. Like night and day.
If you live on a farm, you easily see how lots of children make sense. They don't mean you have to raise anything extra, or double (or treble) your work load at all. They are awesome skilled labor. No supervision necessary.
Oh please, it is a very nice wedding photography. He isn't exactly ancient and she is not in kindergarten. Perfectly normal age difference then and now. I assume she wasn't forced to leave a high paying corporate job to marry. Different world.
Karen Shreeves not for those times... without modern medical care people died younger and it was thought her age was appropriate for childbearing because young and healthy instead of older and wore out was safer. Please look at the historical context before judging.
Dave Wright- not quite. It was hold still and breathe shallowly. Most photos are slightly blurred due to living subjects. Only Memento Morii are crystal clear due to no movement from said subject.
Deb Hadley Christie She not only does not look happy, she looks angry (to me). Maybe she was forced into this marriage by her parents for whatever reasons. Women as property. Their thoughts and feelings did not matter.
Knox Warner no, because woman were beginning to marry at 15. Any woman over 21 was considered a spinster or on the shelf...although the did marry at this age.
Knox Warner. Come on think about it. It was a different. People were lucky to live to be 50. They did everything younger. Marrige and children. They were put to work as young as 5. It was a different time with different needs. You cant judge them by todays standards.
Educate me. Aren´t there some states in the US that still, to this day, allow 13 years old girls or at least very young girls to get married? Or is that fake news?
Colloidion positive photographic chemicals reacted differently to different colors. The dress could be lemon yellow but would appear black in the resulting image.
Yea, My Grandfather was 30 and my Grandmother was 15 in 1899 when they married. Men married young girls who could give them lots of kids to help on farm.
The reason they are not smiling is because it wasnt concidered dignified and they didnt want to be seen as undignified or frivolous. Im sure they were both just fine!
Eileen Darcy can you hold a smile for at least 60 seconds? It's very difficult to do, so the pleasant resting face was easier to hold.
Camera exposures took a lot longer than the second it takes now.
READ up on the history of photography and learn something new.
Jennifer Bristol for my wedding picture I could lose weight so holding a smile for 60 seconds yes of course you can...
Note also that smiling was not accepted before.
Nevertheless we all can see in her eyes she is sad
Eileen Darcy- losing weight is NOT the same as holding a smile for 60 seconds.
try it with a video and see... your face will get tired, and you'll start to droop. I've seen the rare photo of a smile. It must have been a b**ch to hold it that long.
Her eyes aren't sad, that's your perception.
Jennifer Bristol. History is where I learned my fact. I was a reenactor at a living history museum for 10 years. We were taught how to act and why you did so. Also minored in history in college. Seen many documentaries about it so I beleive I know what Im talking about. Have a nice day!
My 2x great grandmother was 12... can you imagine being a wife at that age! From what I've researched as long as they knew what a wifely "duty" was they were allowed to marry.
A lot of women died during childbirth during that era .
Men would marry again two or three times. They would be well into their 30's maybe even 40's and marry much younger women.
I believe I heard mother Mary mother of Jesus was 14, it’s not even possible today kids aren’t mature enough.. It makes my skin crawl tho when the young girl has to marry an old guy ! But I have a lot of old photos ,seems nobody smiled much in any of them .. She does look angry.
Fake. Look at the size of the heads and what must be a VERY long neck of the man. Look at the shine of the hair on the woman compared to the blurry hair of the smaller faced man.
*HEADDESK*
Ladies wore a pomade in their hair. It was part of the fashion, as was her bonnet. He chose not to add pomade to his hair, which men also did.
Perhaps if studied more about Victorian fashion and photography in general, you'd know that this was a normal couple.
It was a different time for sure. Marriage was a much different contract. Women were often married to men much older because they were established with some property and income. I am sure there were lots of unhappy relationships.
My father was 25 and my mother 16 when they were married. She was 14 when they first locked eyes...neither ever looked at another person. They were married 70 years when my father passed away (in the house they built with their hands, with her at his side).
My aunt married when she was 13 and her husband was 21. They had their first child when she was 14 yrs old. They had 9 children only 7 survived. They were married over 50 years. They were married in 1930.
Ulla Cocke I think the only ones that thought it cute were her children. As for myself I can’t understand stand what a 21 year old man saw in a 13 yr old. I’ve seen pictures of her at 14 and pregnant and she looks like a little girl.
AncientFaces it just doesn't seem fair to judge these people when they're not here to defend themselves. I assume they're probably strangers to you as well? It seems disrespectful of the dead.
There are still lots of unhappy relationships. Just because we are accustomed to "marriage for love," doesn't mean unhappiness doesn't exist within marriages today.
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